Any recommendations?

I've been doing kratom for, golly, a bit over a year now, and one thing I've learned is that the quality is very inconsistent. I got some Maeng Da Kratom from Kratora Quality Ethnobotanicals that was amazing. It really elevated my mood appreciably. I had some 1/2 oz sample packs from HBM Co. that were noticeably elevating, but whenever I think I've finally found what I want and order more it's invariably mediocre. I get a slight ringing in my ears and things don't bother me as much. Still nice, but you know what I mean.
Since I don't always have as much surplus cash lying around as I like I'd like to get more bang for my buck.
Can anybody here recommend a good and consistent source? Since the economy keeps getting worse and worse I can't afford to continue spending what little money I have experimentally.
I use kratom as an antidepressant because, from my experience, pharmaceuticals more often than not have bad side effects.
Thank you!

Hello nojoque.
Id like to send you a sample of our new Plantation Maeng Da.
We actually pulled the old Maeng Da off our shelves as it was a bit too mellow.
We are always striving to improve our products and quality but cant do that without your feedback.
Let me know and I'll send you some of the Planttaion Maeng Da free of charge.
Visit us at hbandmcompany.com

Hey Nojoque,
We are another approved vendor on this site, if you'd like to check us out. There are people that will vouch for us as well! We have been in the Kratom business a long time and have our shipments lab tested for Mitragine content as well as tested to make sure there are no contaminants; like mold or lead. Hope that helps! Our site is http://www.zionherbals.com and for your first order you can use the promo code: MISSEDIT, giving you 50% off your entire order. Thanks for your time! (L)
Reliable high quality herbs at low prices 🙂

Thumbs up! Can't wait to hear feedback from that sample 🙂
Have a wee bit better day!

I highly recommend you look at the Quick kratom products for depression relief. I have had good results with most everything from them, except the Prino Indo made me dizzy. I can trade it with someone? I have an ounce minus 2-3 teaspoons available...
Their maeng Da is a little dizzying at first, but very short term. Maybe -0-15 minutes. Then it really helps. Their red vein is so so for analgesia, I wish it were stronger. The cap dose for me is about 6-8 teaspoons in a day. Same effects as 1-2 teaspoons, so I wasted some. I am interested in analgesia relief BIG TIME . Most kratom has not helped much for my pain. Their Bali line especially good for depression relief and a bit of energy I desperately need, Small dose of 1 teaspoon, 5x per day. The white Borneo is great mixed with a regular cup of coffee in the morning, repeat every 3 hours as needed. Hood this helps someone (tho we are all different, sometimes the testing on days off is necessary - to be sure. Does anyone know any good female libido boosters? I have the mood mentally, but down below is not responsive to anything - yet.
Have a wee bit better day!

Sorry guys, I've been away from my computer for a bit.
Thank you for all the helpful feed back! I will definitely put your advice into action!
Again thanks!
PS.
I can't find a pm feature here. Oh well...
HB&M, thanks a lot! I think I've had your Plantation Maeng Da before. You have a good company.
Write me at [email protected] and we can swap information. Free kratom is awesome!
Hey Zion Herbals, I'm sorry I've never heard of you before, but when I get paid next week I will definitely give you a try! Thanks!
Oh, and Laurie, so you've had that dizzy thing happen to you too. I thought it was just me. Not so bad when it happens at home, but once it happened when I was out shopping. Very disorienting!
Thanks for the pointers! I didn't know it was ok to mix kratom and coffee. Someone once told me that made them sick.
I've been doing kratom for, golly, a bit over a year now, and one thing I've learned is that the quality is very inconsistent. I got some Maeng Da Kratom from Kratora Quality Ethnobotanicals that was amazing. It really elevated my mood appreciably. I had some 1/2 oz sample packs from HBM Co. that were noticeably elevating, but whenever I think I've finally found what I want and order more it's invariably mediocre. I get a slight ringing in my ears and things don't bother me as much. Still nice, but you know what I mean.
Since I don't always have as much surplus cash lying around as I like I'd like to get more bang for my buck.
Can anybody here recommend a good and consistent source? Since the economy keeps getting worse and worse I can't afford to continue spending what little money I have experimentally.
I use kratom as an antidepressant because, from my experience, pharmaceuticals more often than not have bad side effects.
Thank you!
The kratom at my site (www.backwardsbotanicals.com) is VERY VERY consistent, has been for the last year (I got it from a company for a year the decided to order kilo's)(and no, not phyto, they suck with quality control, somes good somes bad)... but yeah, I am doing free samples (just pay shipping) with coupon code "freesample" and 20% off entire order using code "bali" --- The horned red thai I have is OUTSTANDING, so is the vietnam for analgesic qualities when burned as an incense...
My Maeng Da is also very good without being too overstimulating, as well as the white strain... Its hard to find a good red thai, and i finally found one that I feel is worthy of selling... Oh, and Quick kratom and zion herbals prices are ridiculous IMO... i bet they are marking it up by 400-500%. NOT COOL. I'm not bashing the companies, but they REALLY need to lower their prices, bigtime. Please take time to look at my company =-) and get a free sample to test the quality (which after going through 20+ venders, i feel is the best, and most consistant)

Well Kottonmouth, you are certainly bold in your claims. I admit I've not heard of your company before but I will certainly give you a whirl next week when I have some disposable income!
Thanks again everybody!
These sorts of things are very confusing to me especially since I don't know any other people personally who have even tried kratom before, so you have all been most helpful!
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Well Kottonmouth, you are certainly bold in your claims. I admit I've not heard of your company before but I will certainly give you a whirl next week when I have some disposable income!
Thanks again everybody!
These sorts of things are very confusing to me especially since I don't know any other people personally who have even tried kratom before, so you have all been most helpful!
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Thanks! I'm a new website, but all the reviews so far have been stellar-ive gone through like 20-25+ tumbleweed sites to find the right one, and the right strains i think are great...and a LOT of people are agreeing with me thus far on some legit sites--...
- i REALLY didnt mean to sound harsh with the overpriced comment, but Im sorry, but it's true. I'm sure they have good kratom-- but so do i (and some other places) that dont mark it up as much. I dunno anyone in the game longer than a month that would pay those prices, seriously. Please don't take offense zion or quick, but you KNOW those prices are ridiculous, just look around some and see what other places are offering it for--
My kratom has recieved nothing but great reviews on my site, SoS, and CRU, the main places im focusing on right now, a week after opening. Oh, the 10g free sample code is now "freesample2" , i had to change it bc i reached the limit on the first one. HB&M's prices are fair also, and they seem like a great company. I might check some of their stuff out actually... Im sure zion and quick are great people too, but does their kratom come with a blowjob or something??? 😛

I would like to say a few things about this. I appreciate you thinking about us, but you are incorrect in many ways. The reason we have higher prices than you is because of the quality that we ensure. We have our own land in Indonesia, to grow Kratom. We do not buy from a source. We lab test our Kratom, to make sure there are no contaminants, like mold or lead. We also check for Mitragynine content in our Kratom to ensure that people are getting what they pay for. Also all packaging is done in a food grade facility. We have taken all these measures to try to be a source that people can trust that they will get good, clean Kratom. Cheapest price is not always the best option. Think about the dollar store. Thanks
Reliable high quality herbs at low prices 🙂
I would like to say a few things about this. I appreciate you thinking about us, but you are incorrect in many ways. The reason we have higher prices than you is because of the quality that we ensure. We have our own land in Indonesia, to grow Kratom. We do not buy from a source. We lab test our Kratom, to make sure there are no contaminants, like mold or lead. We also check for Mitragynine content in our Kratom to ensure that people are getting what they pay for. Also all packaging is done in a food grade facility. We have taken all these measures to try to be a source that people can trust that they will get good, clean Kratom. Cheapest price is not always the best option. Think about the dollar store. Thanks
Im up for a Pepsi challenge bro, anytime =-)... I just think you try to bait newcomers into paying those prices... Im sure yur Kratom is great...but so is mine, and I also get it from Indonesia. Everyone does. I test every key of kratom myself, to ensure quality. I have a lot of positive reviews, not a bad one yet, after 100 sales in a week... Im not tryng to diss yur company, but yur half off deal should be yur normal prices, IMO... Let OP get samples of both, I bet there woudnt be much of a difference, except cost. This is just my opinion, thats it. Take it with a grain of salt if you wish, but again, let OP get a free sample of both of ours, and i bet they are both great quality.

Ok boys, please don't fight over me. LOL! You're embarrassing me! But I guess it's good to have lots of options from which to choose from.
I try nearly every company I find out about. As I said it's kind of confusing. I try some and it's great so then I buy a larger amount of the same and I'm disappointed. It's happened to me a few times now. I'm willing to pay a bit more if I can rely on product consistency.
Seriously, thanks for all the feed back. It's been very helpful!
Ok boys, please don't fight over me. LOL! You're embarrassing me! But I guess it's good to have lots of options from which to choose from.
I try nearly every company I find out about. As I said it's kind of confusing. I try some and it's great so then I buy a larger amount of the same and I'm disappointed. It's happened to me a few times now. I'm willing to pay a bit more if I can rely on product consistency.
Seriously, thanks for all the feed back. It's been very helpful!
Nooooo those werent "fighting words" at all! I was just trying to defend my position that the prices are waaaaay too high... Ive been using the company i buy my kratom from for about a year, i kept trying new paces, but they'd be great one batch, and terrible the next. Sooo, i'd always go back to the same company, and it'd be the exact same every time. I kept trying new places for new strains, but the OG problem kept occurring- consistency.
So, i worked it out with the owner, as we became friends, for him to share his source with me in Indonesia-- so all is well... i just don't think it's fair to charge outrageous prices, especially in this economy. My 20% code is going to remain active for a loooong time (bali), until the economy turns around, at least... I personally test my kratom to ensure quality-if I wouldn't want to burn it, I'm not selling it...If you don't believe my kratom is consistent, and think you mUST pay the outrageous prices some people charge, then buy my cheap 4$ 10g samples for a month or two, THEN buy a larger amount... I dunno... Mine. Is. Consistent. I'm a smaller company, so I can keep quality control, under control. And when i get larger, which I'm starting to already, I will still test every kilo before selling. But i have the utmost confidence in my supplier, so testing might be futile, but it's an extra step I'm willing to take to make sure I succeed at this... and have the customer retention rate I already am starting to have...
It shouldn't all be about the money with this awesome plant-- this tree saved my life, literally. There should be SOME markup, but not to the point some companies have taken it to.
I wasn't fighting with zion. He has good products I'm sure. But the markup for those products is too high. He could cut his prices in half and still make money. But it's whatever, everyone in this community is a friend, I was just providing some constructive criticism, I'm not out to "fight" anyone-- i already have a lot of repeat customers, because I'm trying to keep it fair, and everyone is liking my kratom, not one bad review yet...10/10 on SoS...and other places I'm working on have all been positive... Google is your friend 😉

Hey Ryan, I appreciate the constructive criticism. I also was not trying to attack. Here is a brief summary of why the prices are the way they are. I'm not in this business to get rich. I am merely getting buy. When I say testing I mean that I send 5 kilos of kratom to a laboratory, and have them test for Mitragynine content in the kratom, and also for contaminants. I have lab test results posted with many of the products on the site: http://zionherbals.com/product/buy-borneo-maeng-da-powder-mitragyna-speciosa-kratom/ . Furthermore, I have my own land in Indonesia, to grow consistent and reliable Kratom. I have to pay my growers in Indonesia, as well as the people I employ to pack Kratom to ship out to customers. When you have a facility that is built for this, you have to pay rent, as well as salaries. Next time you decide to speak against another vendor I suggest you take these things into account. Thanks. And Nojoque, I'm sorry for this little debate being on your thread! I hope that you find a vendor worthy of your loyalty!
Reliable high quality herbs at low prices 🙂

Thanks a lot guys! I know it's a very competitive business and the economy is very sluggish compared to how we remember it growing up. Unfortunately I think we will all have to get used to it since I don't believe we will ever be riding high again.
Anyway I will sample a little bit from all of you and tell people about you whenever I get the opportunity.
Again, thanks everyone!

I recommend mmmspeciosa Green Vein Maeng Da or Green Vein Malaysian. I take it for energy, pain relief, and depression and it has changed my life. The prices are a bit much but its the best product I have tried.
Me, me! Pick me! ha ha, just kidding.
There's a lot of vender's to choose from out there, but I say email a vender and ask them what their most popular strains are, ask them how fresh their stock is, and ask them for a sample before you purchase. Not all venders will send a sample, but it doesn't hurt to ask. Also, when reading reviews make sure they're not outdated, because kratom can vary from time of year, and batch to batch. Hope that helps 🙂
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