Having a tough go.

Hey @joedawg!  Welcome Back!

Please forgive the lack of welcome upon posting.  I’ve put in a correction for your username you now have working. 

I can totally relate.  The part about “everyone thinks you’re dying” upon weight loss ….

I tend to think it’s their being supportive but for the sake it IS a health condition, they are excused from blame for overlooking the mention health status…sort of like health insurance-they are covered.

 I also have had to vary method of use over the years.  

There are a LOT of extract options out there!  Every vendor is putting out vendor-specific with their own recipe and logo on it.  

Not ideal for keeping tolerance low.  

My reason currently for trying other products was a side effect I failed to notice for at least a year.  

I have found that I must USE MUCH LESS and then it actually helps more! 
LOCO is what my friends say.  

Kratom is not something that stays the same.  There’s even word about how this year’s plantations are less potent due to over harvest.  I have not noticed anything yet.  But stay with quality vendors for the switch you might make so they can be more helpful for you during ordering.

Hope something here helps..

WELCOME BACK WE DIDN’T BLOCK YOU but I think the PLATFORM the forum is now on is being difficult instead of helpful.  I think.  But it’s got a lot of cool stuff and slowly people are finding their way back!

I’ll be interested in what your next move is..

Hey @joedawg,

Are you considering toss n wash ? 

There are SO MANY options!

@laurie  Unless there is a better option

@laurie  Thank you for the informative reply. I put the name Laurie  on the you can name your Kid that name because i have never met a mean Laurie.

Thats why I named my twins Keven and Katherine. think about ? you can't name a kid a name if know someone with that name to be a total dbag. right? 

Hi Joedawg,

I too would advise cutting back but there may be other options as well.

Do you always use the same type? 

Have you ever considered stopping for 1-2 weeks? there are other alternatives that can be used for the meantime.

On your "enormous" statement.... I would suggest taking 6-8 caps of Flax oil every night before bed.

after the morning coffee things should move in a positive direction

I take Flax oil every day to keep things in motion.

switching to different types or even to different vendors can sometimes provide remarkable results, keep your types New every week. With each new type the alkaloids are moderately different

Also if you get some stem and vein, you can use that during your 2 week pause from regular Kratom, and it will be like its brand new once again. The stem and vein has different alkaloids than the leaf does. So you might have to use a little more of the S&V but the relief is still there.

also, have you tried any potentiators.... with your Kratom? Sometimes they do wonders. Tarragon, Ginger...and many others. Just type "Kratom potentiators" in your Google search

Hope this helps.

Insense1

Rob

916-201-0454

https://insensebotanicals.com

@insense1 Thanks Rob. great solid feedback.I used you right out of the shoot,several years ago.

You had the awesome 89always which I appreciated greatly .One time I had an issue with

a Kilo that made me feel not great. I do not want to bash you in anyway.You were always very 

nice.Class a but there was never a resolution so someone else has gotten my consistant biz for year.

Please have a great 4th Rob . 

@joedawg 

thats strange… did you make us aware of it?

usually we always make it right.

Give me a call please. I will make it right.

i don’t want ANY dissatisfied customers…. Ever!

Glad to see you are still around 🙂

Rob

916-201-0454

https://insensebotanicals.com

[email protected]

Hey @joedawg,

I sure hope you will give the team an opportunity to change your experience… (free products - true reflection of your benefits or dissatisfaction included!  Posting professionally-as a highly valued retail customer)

Just a suggestion, 

@joedawg 

OMG 😳 that is THE TOP NUMBER ONE COMPLIMENT OF ANY, ever?!

Dude thanks so much!  👏😎

🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗

@insense1 I felt bad all day thinking I should not of dropped that bomb. I tried to sugar coat it.

What really happened because it was long time ago ? I went to rain man my son . He remembers everything.

I had got two batches already from them. Happy as a lark. On the third batch I got a white whatever.  Batch is a kilo so I was not new to the Kratom at that point. I got very naucious.I figured nothing.The next day I was going to give a friend who I drive to clinic everyday some. He

had been trying to get off the dope thru methadone and had gotten down to 25 mg which is low low. So to ween off the last 25 He asked me 

if the kratom would help or he told me it would. So I did. the next day he told me how sick he got. i had given some to my adult son 

who enjoys the fancy leaf from indo and he got sick. So I contacted them and was less than enthused with the response. maybe I was over sensitive 

but i worked the phones for years and rule number one even though you think there lying or do not believe customer don't even try to give an attitude. and thats all nothing major whoever I spoke with made me feel less than loved and believed so I flushed it and started searching other vendors,  Sorry Rob to cause a problem. i want nothing for it.you already made it right by giving me that solid  advice yesterday. I appreciate that so much when someone takes time to help others and wants nothing in return   cheers  I do miss the non tea K but Be greatful for any

good by

I loved the beginning….rain man….that’s so funny!

Unfortunately you lost me after that.  No idea what the post is attempting to say.  

I guess I would just like to thank you for posting.  

AND 

Suggest maybe share what you HAVE BEEN HAPPY WITH.  I can’t tell if you ever had kratom since this unfortunate and unknown reflection upon the past.  Much less, satisfying leaf.  Or you wouldn’t be here looking.  There are lots of vendors available here.  Not just us.  We have evolved multiple times in the recent past.  

Happy 4th of July, @joedawg.  Hope you enjoy fruitful shopping for Kratom in 2022! 🇺🇸  This forum is improving every day.  What can we offer to resolve this?  If anything.

Happy 4th of July! 

@joedawg

im late to the convo , but wanted to say it’s great to have you back , and that there are those random batches of kratom that doesn’t deliver good feelings …. ( I’ve experienced this maybe a few times in the almost 6 years I’ve been taking kratom… these days it’s hard to find bad product ime…)

Most of the time it’s the dosage or dose frequency that can make one feel ill or combination of other herbs / prescriptions/ foods… Not saying it wasn’t a bad batch , just that some folks immediately blame the vendor , when in fact it’s was user error . Sucks when it’s a bad batch , I remember having a similar incident and telling the vendor my concerns about the batch , it was immediately removed based on my report and a couple of others … and was replaced with diff kratom of my choice .

Out of the shit , the flower grows lol

Anyways… Good to have you back , Rob at  InSense/ Goldleaf is good people , if this or similar issue ever occurs with any particular vendor , always good to contact them… and if they don’t remedy the situation, then by all means tell ‘em to kick rocks ! I’d def hit up Rob who is always ready to stoke the customers out 😎

Take care mi amigo ✌️🍃

I’d like to add … which was already touched upon , rotation of varieties and vendors can make a big difference, as well as making your own blends. When for whatever reason a stellar batch isn’t delivering like it used to… blend it with a diff one . I’m consistently impressed with the results . 😎

I’m just dying to hear what vendor was chosen and how you are feeling with a new vendor / product access.

please come back after you’ve tried something at least a few times..

We will NOT drop the issue until we get you some improved services and products..!

Hey Joe welcome back! I know I'm really late for this discussion. Sorry...I got unintentionally booted too lol and just went through the process to sign back up again.

Everyone's got great suggestions. I try to when I can do like insense Monday, happy hippo Tuesday. Fused flora wed ECT. And I do try to do a reset, full on break every year or so. Roughly 2 to 4 weeks depending on lots of factors. I also use akuamma many days instead of kratom when I can. But it can be used with. Just like incarvellia ( which are all really cheap at insense)

Hey @michelle373 - 

cool having do a drive-by!  I’m doing the same!  Glad you left a calling card (stayed to post)! Much appreciated!  Hope you’re looking at a nice weekend ahead.  Despite everything going on these days.  Normal ain’t normal anymore…

@laurie 

Yeah miss you all. Normal? What's normal... No boring around here 🤣 

Thank you Everyone!

You all know me and how I like/prefer to do business. I want happy customers...always!

Joedawg I wish the best for you and hope you have found what works. Its not often, but as someone said earlier, it may just be you and your body.  I rarely get unhappy customers and if I had been around more I would have seen this earlier.

We always want to make it right. If there's anything we can do for you, please let us know.

We wish you the best of the best my friend.

Rob

916-201-0454

https://insensebotanicals.com