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I'm about a month in to my kratom use now and I'm still loving it. I just wanted to get a comparison to other users as to how much you guys take in a dose and how often you dose. As I've said before I was a long time opiate user. About 12-15 years I think. I have lost track of time lol. I was up to 60-90mg of oxy per day, so I mainly use it to control my pain, but I am now discovering how great it is for energy as well.
I am still rotating days of using kratom and using oxy. I have been rotating every 3 days, but I am about to try to go about 5-7 days on only kratom. My typical day dosing on kratom goes about like this: First thing in the morning I have a big dose of about 10-12 grams. That is usually enough to get my pain under good controll, but some mornings after about an hour if I don't feel that was enough I will take another 5 gram dose. after that I usually dose anywhere from 2-5 hours apart taking about 5-7 grams. Average times between dosing is usually about 3 hours, but I just wait till I feel the need to take it whether it be for pain or energy.
From reading what most people say, I think my dosages are kind of on the higher side, but I want to make sure I have enough in me to kill the pain enough that I am not tempted to take any oxy that day. I've also heard from a few people that people that have been on long term opiate use usually need more kratom as there is some sort of cross tolerance between the two. I'd also like to think that the need for higher doses is also because people that have been on opiates long term generally suffer more pain than people that have not been on them and therefore need more because of their higher pain levels.
I'd also like to note that I use only plain leaf kratom. I'm not using any extracts or enhanced blends. I did try an enhanced blend once and it was very good and I took less of it, but I'd rather stick to the plain leaf and save that for some day where I'm in great pain and need more than the plain leaf can offer.
So if you use an enhanced blend or extract please note that as well as I know the dosage levels are different.
Anyway, I'd just like to get a little bit of a better idea of how I compare to other users dosage wise. Thanks in advance for your responses.
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Posted : 05/05/2017 4:53 am
I'd like to add to that that I do use a high dose on occasion during the day(about 10-12 grams), but it is very rare. It has only happened a few times when I was having one of my bad pain days, and one time where I had gone without for a long time and felt I needed to start over with a big dose.
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Posted : 05/05/2017 4:55 am
Kaycee777, for me it is not about getting off the oxy entirely. That may one day be my goal, but for now it's more about pain relief. I know I take too much oxy. I've heard people taking way more than what I do, but I do know at one time I was taking less than half what I do now and it actually worked for the pain. Now even at higher doses it does not. I'm trying now to just lower tolerance to opiates, and I have been having small but definite success doing so. I would love to get back to the day where just 5mg of oxy actually helps the pain, but I don't see that happening any time soon. All I can do is keep trying. Like I said, my next experiment will be to lengthen the time I take kratom and stay away from oxy and see if that helps more.
Again, who knows, kratom may be the only thing I ever take some day, I'm just trying to be realistic with my goals for the time being.
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Posted : 05/05/2017 5:41 am
Completely agree with your gatekeeper statement. It is extremely empowering, and as with all power comes danger. I am very happy that for the most part everybody here seems to be pretty responsible adults about it as I am as well. But there is always that little voice in my head warning not to overdo it. That little voice is a good thing. It lets me know I am being responsible.
How does that saying go? A doctor that diagnoses himself has a fool for a patient? I hope I didn't butcher that too much but I think that was the jest of it. We must all be careful not to be fools, and so far I think most people here are doing a good job of not being fools.
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Posted : 05/05/2017 7:36 am
I take 5-6 grams twice a day for depression. I also take it for migraines but haven't had one (or felt one) in a while. I also go 6-8 weeks, then take a 4 day tolerance break. The 4 day break brings my tolerance back down to about 4 grams. Those 4 days without are mentally difficult because I love kratom so much.
Posted : 05/05/2017 9:59 am
Moderator I'd hate to take a 4 day break from it without having my oxy. First off my pain would be horrible, and secondly of course is the withdraws. Even with the oxy, on the days I take it I kinda miss the kratom, and the days on kratom I kinda miss the oxy. It sounds strange even to me, but that's how it effects me doing it the way I am. I would hate not to have the oxy to fall back on if I was trying to switch entirely to kratom. I absolutely love the fact tho that I've at very least found a suitable substitute for oxy which I never would have thought to be possible before. I do think that one day I may in fact put away the oxy forever, or at very least save it for extreme pain days. But for now I am very excited in the results I have gotten so far. The first few days I tried kratom I only dosed a couple times that day and cut back on my oxy as much as I felt I needed to be comfortable. I couldn't bring myself to take that blind leap of faith at first, but after seeing how well it worked I decided to just dedicate each day to either one or the other. That way I will at least keep my tolerances lower to both. I have made a point to definitely not take both on the same day. I think that rule will keep me from creating strong tolerance to both, which would basically put me back where I started before kratom. I have heard some people say that taking both together cancel each other out which I understand what they mean, but I don't think it's completely accurate (at least from my experience). To me, its more like if you're taking one, it's kind of a waste to take the other as it won't give you much of anything that the other isn't already giving you.
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Posted : 05/05/2017 10:28 am
Hi kjdore. I'm using one Tablespoon (does anyone know how many grams that is I'd appreciate knowing!) 3 or 4 times a day think 4 better not sure if I could take more cuz my system sensitive also take soma w Oxy when needed. Took both regularly but when I changed my diet to no sugar and gluten only organic dairy, my pain level improved and I was able to get off soma daily and take as needed now and also reduce my Oxy load a lot. Reducing inflammatory foods helped my pain level a lot.
Working to get to what ur doing. A few days on Oxy then a few off. Is love to be able to take little breaks you are inspiring me! Thank you
Posted : 06/05/2017 4:00 pm
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