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...and mostly don't do. Mine was unintentional.
I'm usually really good at keeping up with supply, but financial troubles and a case of bad judgement due to using a new storage container got me.
Well, my dose, embarrassing as it may be, was 15 grams 4-6 times a day. Wow. Anyhow, I did not taper due to my misjudgement. Don't get me wrong. Day one and part of day two sucked. But man. This was three years of the specified dose every day with no breaks. All considered, it went okay. Lost some sleep. Felt a bit shitty. But I lived.
Got a shipment in today and decided to try four grams. I always hear people say that's their dose and it blows my mind. Well, it worked. Felt like the 15 grams I used to take. Maybe better since in was the morning dose.
I just wanted to suggest to anyone that thinks they can handle it, and I didn't, to give it a shot if your dose has gotten out of control. Please, taper. It will make it much less uncomfortable, but that's all it is. Uncomfortable. I thought I was going to start calling up people I shouldn't and slamming shots to cope, but it's really like coffee. Mine being like someone that drank six pots of espresso a day going cold turkey, but hey, taper. It will be better. Even use picralima. I know it helps. I went a day with just that and it was fine. If anyone else has any recommendations to make this less uncomfortable that doesn't involve narcotics, please contribute to this thread.
I suggest everyone taking more than 7 grams at a time give it a shot. Might save you some money. Seven, by the way was my original dose the first time I took Kratom for it to activate and get me off drugs. And feel okay about that. Not just a number a pulled out of ...a hat. I already knew that was high when I was hearing people talk about stiring a teaspoon into their coffee. Don't start that high unless you have to. I had to. My habits were terrible.
Anyhow, good luck everyone. I hope this inspires just one person to give it a try.
Cheers,
August
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Posted : 23/06/2017 11:36 am
I have always used stem and vein for my breaks, I take the stem and vein for a day like i would my normal doses, then the next day just 2 times, once in the morning and once at lunch. Then the third day i dont take anything. I felt fine, just my normal depression and anxiety. I still went to work and felt normal. I have tried other things for breaks but for me the stem and vein taper works just fine.
I may try the picrilima next time instead of stem and veins, i have not used them by themselves before.
Thanks for your post :-bd
Be not afraid of growing slowly, Be afraid only of standing still.
Posted : 23/06/2017 12:41 pm
Good advice. I always forget about that stuff. Does it not keep your tolerance up to some extent? How long have you been taking Kratom and what's your dose like?
I'll have to order some stem/vein. I've heard good and bad things, but it's worth a try.
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Posted : 23/06/2017 2:19 pm
I'm sure I have some kind of tolerance, I have been taking kratom about a year or so. I take about 2-3 grams normally 3-4 times a day. I used to take 4-5 grams at a time because I 5hiught I was getting a tolerance but when I cut my back to 3 grams I was getti ng better results. So I just stay at 3. But some strains still make me jittery at 3 so I only take 2 grams of those. For me jist sticking to the same dose size keeps it working. If I don't feel like it's working as good I'll take a break or only take it like twoce a day for a few days.
The stem and vein wprks for me. Kinda feels like a red vein to me. I take about 4 to 4.5 grams of it. It doesn't seem to last as long. I got mine from Ohio botanicals.
Be not afraid of growing slowly, Be afraid only of standing still.
Posted : 23/06/2017 10:43 pm
I'll have to experiment with lower doses. I've never really experienced this whole "energy in small doses thing". I always just thought it felt ineffective. I will have to play around. I've always gotten the necessary energy and relaxation from pretty much all strains. I've never felt jittery, but then again, I'm pretty much red-exclusive.
Thanks for the input brother.
Cheers
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Posted : 24/06/2017 8:02 am
That's great to hear August!! So proud of you! I've quit Mmj and Kratom, tapered off Lyrica, Xanax prescribed for sleep 18 yrs and OxyContin prescribed for severe chronic pain after 20 yrs daily. Now I'm tapering off oxycodone, prescribed for pain too. I'm on a roll. Not pleasant but want to see how much pain I really have after I get off everything...then figure out best next direction to regain my health! You missed my first few months here but I was very ill past 16 yrs from many serious and autoimmune illnesses. Think all the meds the Drs had me living on was creating tons of inflammation making fibro, arthritis, IC etc. etc... Much worse!
Happy you can use greatly smaller dose. I was praying for you friend!! :-h
Posted : 26/06/2017 6:32 am
Hello, what is stem and vein and what is picralima.
Posted : 26/06/2017 7:41 am
Riau is on Sumatra, specifically on the east coast of the island. On the other side of the Malacca Strait from Malaysia. I'd be interested to hear how you think it compares to other Sumatran strains.
Posted : 27/06/2017 2:28 am
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