Got your friends/family on the leaf? How'd it go?

I am sharing mine with a trusted relative who ran out of opiates. So far, she "got a small headache" and quit. But. Soon she will have no choice. I have been able to function in society better overall, aside from having to pee a lot. 🙂
Thank goodness I stocked up before this "paperwork snafu" at the U.S. border. Hold on to your stash and use with care for now. I'll post when I get word that imports are resuming again. Hopefully more vendors will share any news they have on this topic. As for sharing with others, I WISH I could share it with everyone! But I am leery of the good word getting out to idiots in power....

interesting, my friends friend just got sleepy when he tried it.. and one buddy got intense stomach pain.. but tried it more.. and the pain stopped returning after a few times (but he almost gave up) Now he owns 5 pounds of Kratom. So yeah.. some bodies just need to have it a couple more times to get attuned to it, quite possibly. It's probably a little more complex than that, but i'm not sure where to find any scientific related data.

My relative has now been "stuck" with trying Kratom. She has been comfortable and happy and no longer anxiety ridden over opiates! It's been a true life saver! Good for you in helping those who need it!

interesting, my friends friend just got sleepy when he tried it.. and one buddy got intense stomach pain.. but tried it more.. and the pain stopped returning after a few times (but he almost gave up) Now he owns 5 pounds of Kratom. So yeah.. some bodies just need to have it a couple more times to get attuned to it, quite possibly. It's probably a little more complex than that, but i'm not sure where to find any scientific related data.

keep in mind if you are getting sleepy or stomach pains you might be taking to much, Have him try cutting his dosage down & see if this helps at all B)

I have shared the leaf with two other people, both friends. They had no reason to take it, and didn't need it. Both said it did nothing for them, like nothing at all. I was present for several hours after they had it. For something that is supposed to be a "drug", and get people "high", it sure did an awful job of doing anything at all, let along intoxicating them to any degree. What I'm saying here, is that it did nothing for them, hence it does not make people high. One had less than five grams, and another had five grams. It infuriates me that people try and market, sell, or claim that it's a legal high. If this was true, they would have been intoxicated.

I have given it to my wife for menstrual issues. Her issues are severe, much worse than the average person due to complications with her anatomy. Her doctor had her on double strength Vicodin. It worked, but the Kratom worked too, without the side effects. This shows us that the plant is just a plant, with qualities that help people, and do not make them high. The proof is in the pudding.

I totally agree with OP.

Okay, to start off, I had a nice job, lost it due to mental health issues (OCD, intrusive thoughts, severe depression, anxiety) and have been struggling for over a year. After my job, went to the mental health hospital for over 4 days. I tried Benzos, anti-depressants, anti-psychotics and some small forms of opiates (Hydrocodone). My psychiatrist wanted to diagnose me with borderline schizophrenia. Nothing helped me at all or barely gave me enough strength to even get by. And this was all 2 months after a car accident. It has been about a year since I had my mental health problems.

So just recently I needed something to help me get off the Hydrocodone and did some research and found Kratom, decided to give it a try because my life was already so fucked up I had nothing to lose. I just received it last week and tried Thai Red Vein. My jaw freaking dropped. I felt normal after only 2g. I couldn't believe it. I finally got my life back after a whole year of struggling.
I tried the Maenga Da, 2 grams, and had this super vitality, got so much done in one day, I was even surprised with myself. So after finding out the miracle effects it had on me, I thought surely it will help others give the same effects. Well, not so much.

I introduced 2 friends to this herb and they both decided to try it out. One tried 3g and didn't even notice any difference at all. The other barely noticed any effects at all, maybe a very small slight increase of energy. I am quite surprised, I thought surely they would have super energy like I had and be hyper as a dog. Turns out, not really. And keep in mind this was their first time as well. Trhey aren't eally surprised at its effects but they are glad it has helped me with my mental issues. I feel like I am re-living life. The focus, the energy, the clarity, the enjoyment of music and food. Ahhhh. I am truly thanking for this herb.

Why this herb has helped me get out of my metal problems, I can't explain. The only issues I have at this point is intrusive thoughts which has dropped in frequency of 75%. So I do get thoughts throughout the day, but nothing near what my life was before this herb. I only take 1g 3x a day and it makes me feel completely normal, NOT HIGH.

So to summarize, Kratom affects us all differently. Some it will have very little to no affects while others may get energy, and if taken enough, high. Use responsibly and it is a life saver. Peace out!

This was a double post. The "Delete" button doesn't show up for this post, so I am unable to delete it myself.

I totally agree with OP.

Okay, to start off, I had a nice job, lost it due to mental health issues (OCD, intrusive thoughts, severe depression, anxiety) and have been struggling for over a year. After my job, went to the mental health hospital for over 4 days. I tried Benzos, anti-depressants, anti-psychotics and some small forms of opiates (Hydrocodone). My psychiatrist wanted to diagnose me with borderline schizophrenia. Nothing helped me at all or barely gave me enough strength to even get by. And this was all 2 months after a car accident. It has been about a year since I had my mental health problems.

So just recently I needed something to help me get off the Hydrocodone and did some research and found Kratom, decided to give it a try because my life was already so fucked up I had nothing to lose. I just received it last week and tried Thai Red Vein. My jaw freaking dropped. I felt normal after only 2g. I couldn't believe it. I finally got my life back after a whole year of struggling.
I tried the Maenga Da, 2 grams, and had this super vitality, got so much done in one day, I was even surprised with myself. So after finding out the miracle effects it had on me, I thought surely it will help others give the same effects. Well, not so much.

I introduced 2 friends to this herb and they both decided to try it out. One tried 3g and didn't even notice any difference at all. The other barely noticed any effects at all, maybe a very small slight increase of energy. I am quite surprised, I thought surely they would have super energy like I had and be hyper as a dog. Turns out, not really. And keep in mind this was their first time as well. Trhey aren't eally surprised at its effects but they are glad it has helped me with my mental issues. I feel like I am re-living life. The focus, the energy, the clarity, the enjoyment of music and food. Ahhhh. I am truly thanking for this herb.

Why this herb has helped me get out of my metal problems, I can't explain. The only issues I have at this point is intrusive thoughts which has dropped in frequency of 75%. So I do get thoughts throughout the day, but nothing near what my life was before this herb. I only take 1g 3x a day and it makes me feel completely normal, NOT HIGH.

So to summarize, Kratom affects us all differently. Some it will have very little to no affects while others may get energy, and if taken enough, high. Use responsibly and it is a life saver. Peace out!

I've heard a story very similar to this. It's so similar, that it's almost identical, including the car wreak. If I didn't know better, I would say I know you, except for some minor changes in detail, which clearly shows you aren't the person I was thinking of (an old best friend).

Isn't it strange how someone with mental issues such as myself, requires five grams, and you only require one? The human body truly is a wonder. Thank you so much for sharing your story. As a psychology major, I'm curious about your OCD, but don't have the gonads to ask. It would be rude.

Well, I don't mind sharing my story, especially if it helps others in need or can relate to them. My OCD is tied to the intrusive thoughts. So, no matter how much I try to stop having the thoughts, they come regardless and without any triggers. It was so bad a couple months, I literally walked around for 17 hours with the same repeating thought in my head "Kill yourself" every 10 seconds non-stop. Dying would have been better than to suffer with that. People don't know how bad that can affect you. Every aspect, every task, every conversation with somebody and the only thoughts that come through are of suicide and murder. On top of that I had this mental fog/anxiety and it felt like I was this other person, and I wondered if I would actually get out of it. I eventually feared that I would actually turn into this other person and completely lose myself or become unaware of who I am. It's quite disturbing actually thinking about it. The only time I had peace was when I was sleeping, every time I woke up, I just wanted to sleep and hope it went away. I felt that dying would almost be the way out.

Fortunately, they have reduced in frequency and now that I have my focus back, I can tolerate them. If you can go for months with those thoughts every 10 seconds, then you can live with them going on every hour or two. Although, I don't see myself having the ability to work with them (consistency in job life). Sometimes, I want to pretend that that stuff actually never happened to me.

Wow. What a story. I'm sorry you've had to deal with that. I'm so grateful to hear that this plant has helped you. I'm not just saying that either, I truly feel for you. One of the reasons I went into psychology and majored in it, was to help people with obsessive thoughts. I'll share one with you since you shared one with us.

I have ALWAYS had terrible anxiety. I was raised on a few stimulant medications and they put me on this new one (at the time it was new), it was called dextro-amphetamines (Dexedrine). I had to count every single breath of my existence, for an entire school year, in sixth grade. I couldn't breath if I didn't. That was torture. The mental anguish of having to count every single breath...

the plant is just a plant, with qualities that help people, and do not make them high. The proof is in the pudding.

I understand what you are getting at, but no offense it's not the way to go about it. In the name of science, it is a drug, it may or may not interact - whether they would define any noticed interaction as high or good or calm, or feeling better. There are negative side effects reported too. 'just a plant with qualities' is an incomplete and dangerous definition. If that was on a bottle, it would be a shady lure.

In the cases that some people don't respond to something, it is not 'pudding proof'. There are trip reports of people not reacting to all kinds of things/drugs.