How long on Kratom before a habit starts?

As long as you use the minimal amount and do't over do it. There is no habit forming properties. MWK has true organic vein free leaves grinded to a fine powder. this provides a clean kratom effect every time.
Hope this is helpful,
Joey

this is a really great thing you are doing. I have 45+ friends from my home town dead from drugs or something related to addiction.
1. to get off the current addiction.. depends on the level of addiction.. so does the dose given to wheen them off
2. 2-3 grams for 100-150 lbs, 4-5 gram 180-250 I usually tell people to take a little the first time and slowly go as far as you can till you feel even the slightest nausea..all the while having plenty of food and fluids
3.Male or female everyone is different with this stuff and i mean every single person. Some strains do the opposite to some that they do to others.
4.age does not matter Ill only give this stuff to people over 21
5. type red is for sedation, green is euphoric, white has a little more energy
kratom has less side effects than coffee I like to say
6.rought i think you mean capsules or powder, I use large 1 gram per capsule 000 capsusles so they are pretty lodaed with powder as apposed to 00 .5 gram caps
Aloha and I hope this helps
joey

Hello 🙂 i have posted answers similar to this somewhere in the forums, but i will give you the short version here. :-bd

I tapered my opiate use prior to switching to kratom, from what i have read about cross tolerance i would say this is essential for kratom to work. Then cease opiates, and wait that day till you are getting sick then try using kratom, i started with small doses and worked my way up till i found what dose size i needed. If their habit is bad like mine i found i needed to take it four times a day, four hours apart every time. and only taking the amount needed to keep kratom effective. Everyone will find strains that are the most helpful to them, but they need to have a few ounces of multiple strains in case some dont give them much relief.

For me i could still feel some opiate withdrawal at times, but it was bearable. I have been clean a month or so from opiates using kratom. I have been careful with my kratom use to avoid tolerance and still am using the same dose as when i started, and still get results every time, sometimes it just doesnt last very long.

If they do not wan to take kratom for long term, i would suggest towards the end of the first month clean from opiates using kratom to start tapering their kratom use, and then ceasing use. Then they should be able to use it occasionally without feeling any negative effects when they dont use it.

I have tested to see what happens to me if i take no kratom for a coupl edays. All i noticed was not as much energy, i did have a runny nose, and a mild headache but still very functional and nothing like opiate withdrawal, but thats just me.

SO......
4 weeks, 3-5g. a dose 4 times a day, Male, 140 and 5'7, 25 yo, several different strains but greens worked the best for the withdrawals for me, Toss and wash or mixing with a little OJ.

I was coming off a ten year off and on habit so i was very surprised how effective this subtle plant was. I think tapering prior to the switch is key. And after 4 weeks even without the kratom i have not had to experience the horrible withdrawals i have in the past. I did write a blog post, that is a guide of how i did the switch, it should be posted in the blog section of this site soon. I will make sure to tell you when it does so you can read it and see if it can help what you are doing. Kudos to you man, i try to help others with this myself.

Note- one thing i've noticed for sure , is the people i have let try kratom dont even seem to notice it working at all at doses of 5g. or less if they have not tapered their opiate habit down first. So without the taper they will require more kratom, but that would be very costly so i highly suggest the taper if they are serious about quiting. Hope this helps man, i will let you know when the how to guide gets posted.

I will pm you a link to my blog, my guide i used is posted there.

Hey,

Thank you for posting your results, I know it's hard coming off, and info you add is apperciated, thanks agin.

Hi Ryano and Levonne,
Great question! I have only tried helping someone once. He was male, approx 160 pounds, 5'6'. He was/is a serious alcoholic. He lied to me and said he wanted help getting clean to be able to accept work assignments. I was going to cat sit for him. Supposedly, however I think THAT was part of his scam/routine.
I had never used Kratom for cutting back on booze. I told him that. I gave him one ounce of red indo and suggested he try it INSTEAD OF BEER in the morning hours. "Never MIX the two. If you're going to drink, leave the Kratom alone".
I figured it might be helpful to stay off booze until noon?!
He ignored my instructions and took a teaspoon with his morning beer. He got very ill and threw out the rest of the ounce. Being a scammer, I think karma had some involvement, LOL
However, I decided to NEVER offer it to ANYONE unless they ASK me to help them get off opiates. He is probably very drunk, dead or in jail right about NOW 🙁